Kia seed 1st generation. Review of a Korean with European appearance: disadvantages of a used Kia Sid

When the first generation Kia Seeds were new, they attracted motorists with their fresh European design, nimble engines and good prices. And now, after some time, we can judge how reliable these cars are and what you need to pay attention to when buying KIA Sid with mileage.

Even though Cee'd looks like european car, his paintwork It immediately reveals that this is an Asian car. It must be taken care of so that scratches and chips do not appear so often, because The paintwork on the Kia Sid is very delicate., and varnish applied to plastic comes off even better.

But the quality of the metal is quite good, the body does not immediately rust in places where there is no paint. The only thing that can spoil the appearance of a car over time is the corrosion that appears on the roof rails; as a rule, it appears after about 2 years, especially if the car is not parked in a garage. Further, the paint under the trunk lid may swell, and when choosing a used car, especially among the earliest models, you must definitely check the bottom of the doors and spring support cups are the most vulnerable places to corrosion in Cee’d.

Vehicle interior

As in any car, Sid’s electrics do not like dampness; if the contacts on the connectors oxidize, the immobilizer, wipers, and electric lock for the trunk door may stop working, so you need to make sure that there is no oxidation on the wiring connectors. This mainly applies to cars whose age exceeds 5 years. Things like this can happen with the air conditioner - sometimes it stops working cold air, in this case, you need to check the condenser, its walls are quite thin, and in cars whose age is about 6 years, the lower honeycombs can rot into holes through which the refrigerant will escape into the street.

Climate control sometimes also causes trouble, especially if the electric duct damper actuators break down, each of which will cost $20. For those owners who bought cars in dealer centers– under warranty, the control unit was replaced immediately. It also happens that over time the cabin temperature sensor fails and the display shows that it is +60°C outside, but this is not yet a cause for concern - it’s quite simple clean the external temperature sensor from dirt, installed behind the front bumper.

Quite delicate windshields were installed on pre-restyling cars; there were cases when cracks appeared on them in the cold, fortunately they could be replaced under warranty. And due to the fact that the windshield washer sprays weakly, and too late - the brushes are already waving, and the liquid is just starting to flow - the glass is rubbed faster. After restyling in 2009, the washer pump was modified and as a result, the glass began to rub less.

Power units for Kia Sid

The Kia Cee'd is equipped with Gamma petrol engines, the volume of which is 1.6 liters and 1.4 liter engines. The majority, about 73% of cars on the market are equipped with 1.6-liter gasoline engines, about 13% of cars are with 1.4-liter engines. But these power units are not super reliable, so they must be carefully checked when purchasing. Already after 50,000 km. mileage appears floating idle speed, this means throttle valve requires cleaning from deposits. Poor quality oil and dust entering the intake tract can cause scoring on the coating of the aluminum cylinder block.

There are frequent cases that already by 150,000 km. mileage will have to be changed piston rings, the price of which is approximately $40, will also require replacement of the connecting rod and main bearings; such a kit will cost $90. Of course, we need to refuel good gasoline, so that you don’t have to spend money on a new neutralizer, which is not cheap for Sid - $1000.

If after 100,000 km. dips appear during overclocking, this means that Timing chain stretched, which costs about $40. There is also an unreliable tensioner here, it costs only 30 dollars, but because of it you can get money, if the chain jumps a few teeth, the pistons will meet the valves, which will ultimately lead to major renovation engine.

It has been noticed that these engines are prone to oil leaks. The front timing cover and valve cover are often covered in oil. The thing is that sealant is used instead of conventional gaskets, and after 5 years the sealant loses its properties. The rear crankshaft oil seal also cannot withstand oil pressure over time, so it leaks out through it. And if you notice that The antifreeze level began to drop and the car leaves behind white marks - this means it’s time to change the cylinder head gasket, fortunately it costs only 20 dollars. Antifreeze may begin to leak out like this no earlier than after 130,000 km. mileage

There is also an interesting feature of Seeds with gasoline engines - fuel tank, which makes interesting sounds like clapping. The fact is that after 3-4 years the filler plug valve sticks and the absorber has already served its purpose; replacing it will cost $30. So, these two parts in a steel tank create a strong vacuum, popping noises will appear, and if you ignore them, then after a while the gas tank may burst, and this is very unpleasant, especially if there is a considerable amount of gasoline left there. The price of a new tank does not exceed $500, so you need to keep an eye out for unusual sounds and quickly make the right decision to fix the problem.

Diesel engines

The fewest cars were produced with turbodiesels under the hood: 3% of cars with a 1.6-liter engine and 1% of cars with a 2-liter engine. This is not to say that diesel engines are more reliable than gasoline engines. In most cases, the injectors can easily withstand 150,000 km, and replacing them will require about $290 from your wallet. As for the Bosch fuel injection pump, it has 250,000 km. will not create any difficulties. But there have been cases where Garrett turbochargers had to be replaced after 100,000 km. mileage, and their price is rather high - $670.

But these are all minor things compared to what happens to the pistons after 100,000 km. mileage - cracks appear on them, and the cylinder block, cast from cast iron, also seriously wears out. The price of such a unit is about $1,100. But now there is no need to change it - there are specialists who can restore the cylinder block by inserting repair sleeves, like on a Zhiguli. It is also important to notice dips and jerks around 2000 rpm, this means that the end of the boost pressure sensor has come, the price of which is $25. But if the engine does not start, then you can check the fuel pressure sensor, it could have failed, its price does not exceed $250.

A the best option for KIA Sid, a 2-liter gasoline engine from the Beta series is considered. This is old good motor, created in 1997 and modified in 2002. It uses a cast iron cylinder block, timing belt. Such a motor can easily withstand 250,000 km. and more. The only thing that can cause problems is the ignition coils, which can burn out after 40,000 km. There are also glitches in the coolant temperature sensor, so the engine can overheat when driving in traffic jams.

Transmission

In the case of KIA Sid, it is better to choose an automatic than a manual. Together with a 1.6-liter engine, the automatic transmission can easily serve for at least 250,000 km, if you change the oil every 70,000. The box is not particularly fast, because there are 4 stages, but due to the fact that the design is simple, it is reliable. Sometimes it happens that after 150,000 km. mileage, shocks appear when switching, this is due to the torque converter lock-up solenoids or valve body valves, but this rarely happens.

Concerning manual transmission, then there are continuous problems: gears, synchronizer couplings, and ring gears wear out quickly. Already after 140,000 km. the box starts to crunch and the gears are inserted tightly. And you need to change the clutch disc even earlier. The release bearing costs about 20 dollars, and the clutch disc costs 70 US rubles.

Suspension

You also need to keep an eye on the CV joint boots after 50,000 km. lubricant may leak from them after a mileage. For $70 you can buy a set of rubber bands, which will ultimately save you about $450, which is what the axle shaft together with both joints will cost.
In general, the suspension of the KIA Sid is not considered particularly reliable. After 60,000 km. mileage, you usually have to change the shock absorbers, for Sid - from the Mando company, the front ones cost 120 dollars, and the rear ones 160. Also, along with the shock absorbers, it is customary to change the wheel bearings, the front ones can be purchased separately, but the rear ones come with the hub, which turns out to be more expensive.

On early models, the rear shock absorbers made a noise when operating; these shock absorbers were replaced under warranty, but after 20,000 km they began to rumble again. Already in 2009, during restyling, the shock absorbers were modified and the rumble went away. Racks are considered consumables front stabilizer, where the lower hinge is poorly sealed. These racks cost $12 each, but sometimes they don't even last 20,000 km. mileage

The brakes in the car are quite reliable, especially if you lubricate the caliper guides every 2 years. The discs themselves can easily withstand about 70,000 km. If during braking the car starts to drift to the sides, then be sure to you need to check the silent blocks front suspension arms, if they are worn out, the car will wobble when braking, these silent blocks cost $7. But the silent blocks on the rear suspension age without any special signs, after about 80 thousand km. they need to be changed already.

Electric power steering usually doesn't cause problems. There have been cases where cars older than 2009 had bad gears, which caused knocking noises after 60 thousand km. mileage The steering gear costs $970, so it would be nice to have it replaced under warranty. Therefore, when buying a used car, you need to check whether there are knocks and other rattling noises when turning the steering wheel. But in most cases, the cause of the knocking noise can be tie rods, which cost $12 apiece.

For the money, Sid is a normal car, it’s not particularly reliable, and where can you find a car that doesn’t break down these days? The advantages of Cee'da are that it is cheaper than competitors in its class ( Volkswagen Golf and Toyota Auris) for about 100,000 rubles, but Peugeot 308 and Opel Astra They cost the same as Sid. Is there such a car as Ford Focus, so it costs less, and it also lasts longer, and is generally more reliable.

12.03.2017

– car segment “ C» ( according to European classification), developed by Kia Motors and produced since 2007. Kia Sid became the first car of the Korean company, which marked with its appearance a new era in the history of the brand, since this particular model became a separate page in the development of the company and the first Korean car designed for the European market. Since then, Sid has sold millions of copies around the world and has become a real bestseller in many markets, including CIS. Well, let’s try to figure it out now, how things are with the reliability of this model and what you should pay attention to when buying a used Kia Sid.

A little history:

The debut of the Kia Sid took place in 2006 at the international auto show in Paris. The design of the car was developed specifically for the European market by a German design studio and received the abbreviation “ ED" At the end of 2006 at the new plant Kia Motors The first production car rolled off the assembly line in Slovakia. For the CIS markets, the car is assembled in Kaliningrad, Russia. Initially, the Kia Sid was produced only in a hatchback body, but already in 2007 it debuted on the market (station wagon). In 2009, a restyled version of the Kia Sid appeared on the market. The main changes affected the radiator grille, interior design and lighting equipment. In 2013, a presentation of the charged version took place Kia pro_cee'd GT and 5-door hatchback cee'd GT. Kia Sid has repeatedly won in the categories " Car of the Year», « Best all-rounder" And " Best hatchback».

Kia Ceed is a Korean front-wheel drive class C car. Produced since 2006. The model was developed by Kia Motors specifically for the European market.

The first generation of Sidov was restyled in 2009. We edited mainly the design of the model: we changed the interior and the shape of the external lighting devices, and adjusted the radiator grille to the corporate style.

Worldwide korean cars from Kia are becoming more and more popular. The reason for this is two facts: “catchy” appearance(since 2006, the famous Peter Schreyer has been in charge of design in the corporation) and the quality of workmanship growing from year to year.

What can you say about the first generation Sid (2006-2012), are they reliable? Which Kia repair Ceed I is waiting for its owner, does the model have chronic diseases?

Engines

Petrol 1.4 and 1.6 l

Motors of the Gamma series with an aluminum cylinder head have a short service life. After 130,000-150,000 km, engines may need repairs. You will have to replace the piston rings, connecting rod and main bearings. If after 50,000 km the idle speed begins to float, the throttle valve, which is overgrown with deposits, needs to be cleaned.

Gamma engines require high-quality oil. If you use the first one you come across, you can pay with scuff marks on the coating that strengthens the aluminum cylinders.

Motors are very picky about fuel. Refilling with low-quality gasoline will have an impact after 100,000 km: the engine will respond to the gas pedal with a rattling sound and will ask to replace the not-so-cheap converter.

Although the requirements for fuels, lubricants and fuels are high for all modern engines. Ceed Gamma engines are no exception here.

If during acceleration there are dips in traction, a stretched timing chain is to blame. This usually happens at 100,000 km. The tensioner in the drive system is also unreliable. Its failure can lead the engine to major overhaul: the chain jumps several teeth, the valves meet the pistons.

Engines are prone to oil leaks. The covers “sweat”: the front timing belt and valve covers. And all because instead of conventional gaskets, a sealant that dissolves over time (4-5 years) was used. The rear crankshaft oil seal is leaking oil. By 120,000-130,000 km, the cylinder head gasket “warps” until it loses its tightness. The machine will respond to a malfunction with a drop in the antifreeze level and a white plume from the exhaust pipe.

Petrol 2.0 l

The best of the Kia Ceed engines. Developed back in 1997, the Beta series engine is equipped with a cast iron BC and a timing belt drive. Unpretentious, it will last 250,000 km or more without problems.

From weak points They note a tendency to “bask” in traffic jams due to a faulty coolant temperature sensor. The ignition coils are weak and have to be replaced every 30,000 km.

After 4 years for everyone petrol modifications“Sida” begins to “slam” the steel fuel tank: a vacuum is created by a stuck plug valve on the filler neck and/or a deteriorated absorber. If you do not intervene in time, the tank may simply burst.

Turbocharged diesel engines 1.6 and 2.0 l

The reliability of diesel engines is at the level of Gamma engines despite the cast iron cylinder head. The injectors will withstand no more than 150,000 km. The appearance of cracks in the pistons and critical wear of the BC are possible even before the mileage reaches 100,000 km. In some services, blocks are restored using repair sleeves from Zhiguli. However, the lifespan of such a business center is, of course, short.

It's not good for diesel engines with sensors. Uneven engine operation, dips at speeds of 1700-2000 indicate that the boost pressure sensor has “covered up”. If the engine refuses to start, the most likely culprit is the sensor that records the pressure in the fuel rail.

But the injection pump from Bosch pleases with its resource, it can last 250,000 km or more. True, in isolated cases, during the first 100,000 km, Garrett turbochargers had to be replaced under warranty.

Transmission

The 1.6 engines are paired with an A4CF1 automatic transmission, and the 2.0 engines are paired with an improved version of the A4CF2. Both automatic transmissions are four-speed, thoughtful, but simple and long-running. Without any repairs, they can “go” up to 220,000 km, if, of course, you feed them with a fresh transmission every 70,000 km. At 150,000 km, shocks and delays in switching may occur. Most often, the malfunction is eliminated by replacing the torque converter lockup solenoids, valve body valves and adjusting the pressure.

Oddly enough, Sid’s automatic transmission is more reliable than manual transmission. A manual transmission can already present a whole bunch of unpleasant surprises by 120,000 km. Already at 120,000 km, the gear rims at the blocking ring, clutch and third gear synchronizer gear wear out critically: to engage the speed, more and more effort is required, then shifts are accompanied by a crunching sound. But, most likely, even before this mileage it will be necessary to replace release bearing and clutch disc.

Chassis

After 50,000 km, CV joint boots need regular inspections. If you miss their cracking, you will have to change the axle shaft assembly. Experienced Seed owners buy a cheaper identical unit from the Hyundai Elantra.

There are plenty of problems with the suspension of cars in the early years. Enough for no more than 60,000 km wheel bearings and Mando shock absorbers. In this case, the rear bearings do not change separately from the hub. The rear shock absorbers, which rattle even in working condition, were modernized in 2009. Therefore, post-restyling cars only have front stabilizer struts in the consumables category; they need to be changed every 20,000 km.

The brake discs serve conscientiously (60,000-70,000 km), just don’t forget to lubricate the guide calipers every 2 years. If “Sid” suddenly “wobbled” when braking, it means that the rear silent blocks of the levers in the MacPherson front suspension have worn out. At the rear of the Ceed is the same MacPherson strut, here the silent blocks “travel” at least 80,000 km.

If, at a mileage of less than 60,000 km, knocking and rattling noises appear in the steering wheel, then the problem is in the steering gear of the steering mechanism. The case was recognized by the manufacturer as under warranty, and the problem was fixed free of charge. Similar sounds occur in “Sid” after 100,000 km. The steering rods must now be replaced.

“Sid” does not differ in reliability and special durability of its components. However, compared to its famous classmates, Toyota Auris and Volkswagen Golf, Ceed is a very favorable price offer.

Repair of the Kia Ceed I will be required often, but this is typical for the vast majority modern cars. If there is no prejudice against the Korean automobile industry, then you should prefer the restyled “Sid” with a reliable 2.0 gasoline engine and automatic transmission.

We talk about the “sores” of the first generation Korean Kia cee’d family, and also advise how to choose such a used car.

The first generation Korean hatchback Kia cee’d, which appeared on the Russian market about 10 years ago, was able to attract attention in the then popular “golf class”. A newcomer with a European design, impressive equipment, and a decent line-up power units, including gasoline and diesel engines, quickly expanded into several types of bodies, offering all this to Russian customers at competitive prices.

Background

For the first time about Kia hatchback The world became aware of cee’d in the spring of 2006, when the Koreans presented a prototype of the same name at the Geneva motor show. A team of designers led by the Hungarian Miklos Kovacs, who previously had a hand in the creation, worked on his style, developed in Germany. flagship sedan Audi A8 second generation (D3). See'd became the first Kia model developed and produced in Europe and for Europe. Its assembly was established at the company’s new plant in Zilina, Slovakia.

This focus on the Old World is even reflected in the name of the car. Pronounced like English word seed (“seed”), the name of the cee’d model comes from the abbreviation Community of Europe and European Design (Community of Europe and European Design). Later, at the end of the same 2006, at the Paris Motor Show, the Koreans presented the cee’d sw station wagon and the sportier pro_cee’d three-door to the public. The first cee'd hatches began rolling off the assembly line at the Kia plant in Slovakia in December 2006. The station wagon was launched into production there in July 2007, and then, in October, the three-door.

The “first” Kia cee’d went on sale in Russia at the end of May 2007, just a couple of weeks after it was assembled from Slovak vehicle kits at Avtotor’s facilities in Kaliningrad. In 2009, the Koreans updated the cee’d family, updating it with the new corporate style Tiger Nose (“tiger nose”), bumpers, lighting equipment and radiator grille, as well as the interior. By the way, the Kia cee'd was built on the same platform and with the same engines and gearboxes as the Hyundai i30. That is, all the nuances of technical operation, repairs and failures of the Sid can be safely projected onto a related model from the Hyundai-Kia corporation.

"Secondary"

The range of "Seeds" of the first generation on secondary market covers all types of bodies, engines and transmissions with which the model was sold with us. But despite this diversity, the bulk of the proposals are made up of 5-door hatchbacks ( 61% ). There are half as many station wagons ( 28% ), and there are very few three-door pro_cee’d ( 11% ). "Sidov" with mechanics ( 55% ) and automatic machines ( 45% ) on the secondary market almost equally.

Almost all used cars, with a few exceptions, are sold with gasoline engines ( 96% ). And the most common of them is the 1.6 unit (almost 74% ). Several times smaller than versions with minor 1.4 (about 16% ). You'll have to look for top-end petrol 2.0s (almost 6% ). With a 1.6 diesel engine there is a little less, and with a 2-liter “four” on heavy fuel there are only a few.

No rust or shine

Despite the considerable age of the first generation Seeds, traces of rust can only be found on cars that have been involved in an accident and have been poorly restored. In other cases, the body resists the “red plague” well. The first to corrode is the trunk lid, as well as the roof rails on station wagons. The older the car, the more likely it is that rust will appear on the bottom of the doors and under the trim above the rear license plate. However, the absence of corrosion, alas, does not guarantee the car a presentable appearance.

The reason for this is the paintwork, which quickly fades and becomes chipped on this model. Also, from frequent wiping with a rag, the plastic of the head optics becomes cloudy over time. Each new headlight will cost 8,800 rubles. In pre-restyling “Sidov”, the windshield wiper washer operates with a delay and, as a rule, only after one or two strokes of the wipers on dirty windshield. As a result, the latter gets rubbed and scratched. And sometimes it also cracks due to temperature changes. A new one will cost at least 8,650 rubles.

Only one in five

Despite the fact that the choice of gasoline and diesel engines The “first” Kia cee’d is decent; it’s worth buying this model with mileage, perhaps, only with one of them. This is a time-tested 2-liter 143-horsepower naturally aspirated “four” of the Beta series with a timing belt drive. With a service life of more than 250,000 km, it is the most reliable and will cause the least amount of trouble with age. From time to time it will only have to be replaced with burnt-out ignition coils for 2000 rubles or a malfunctioning antifreeze temperature sensor for 500 rubles.

This is nothing compared to the problems of the more common junior gasoline engines of the 1.4 and 1.6 Gamma series. Some of them have to be sent to the bulkhead piston group already by 150,000 km. And if you don’t replace the timing chain that stretches to 100,000 km for 2,700 rubles or miss the failure of its tensioner for 2,100 rubles, then the jump of the links to adjacent teeth will cause a meeting of valves and pistons, sending the car for a long and expensive repair. Also, if the previous owner filled up with gasoline anywhere, then sooner or later he will also have to change catalytic converter for 86,000 rubles.

Fogging of crankshaft oil seals for 1000 rubles is a common occurrence. But oil leaks under the valve cover are a reason to visit a service center to replace the sealant, which is used instead of gaskets and retains its properties for no more than 5 years. Turbodiesels 1.6 and 2.0 are also not very reliable. Loss of low-end traction can result in replacing the boost pressure sensor wires that break over time; a Garrett turbine worth 65,400 rubles lasts about 100,000 km. Fuel injectors costing 15,500 rubles “live” one and a half times longer. Against their background fuel pump high pressure for 57,100 rubles it seems to be a long-liver, working more than 250,000 km.

Take it with a machine gun!

It’s best to look for a used “first” Kia cee’d paired with a no longer young, but simple and reliable 4-band automatic transmission. He is leisurely, somewhat thoughtful and does not always change gears smoothly. But if the oil was regularly changed in it, then a mileage of over 200,000 km without any interventions or repairs is not the limit for it. During a test drive of a car with such a gearbox, make sure there are no extraneous noises and hums, as well as delays in switching on steps and kicks.

You should take the choice of a manual car more seriously. It may require repairs earlier than the automatic transmission. By the mileage of 150,000 km, a 5-speed gearbox with a 1.4 engine and a 6-speed gearbox with other engines can wear out gears from 2,300 rubles and gear synchronizers from 2,000 rubles. The need to replace them, and indeed to rebuild the manual transmission in general, will be indicated by difficulties in shifting gears, accompanied by characteristic crunching noises in the depths of the gearbox. A clutch from 10,000 rubles lasts about 100,000 km on Sid. Most likely, you will also have to replace the release bearing along with it for 1,400 rubles.

Rest

The Kia cee'd suspension of this generation also cannot be called a standard of reliability. Front stabilizer struts cost 560 rubles and can be requested for replacement every second service, the interval of which is 15,000 km. Shock absorbers were installed on pre-restyling cars, which rarely survived up to 50,000 km. After the update, the Koreans began to equip the model with more durable new ones - the front ones for 5,500 rubles and the rear ones for 4,500 rubles. At a mileage of 60,000 km, the Sid’s wheel bearings may begin to hum.

The rear ones are more expensive than the front ones - 4800 rubles versus 1600 rubles - because they change along with the hub. When checking your favorite cee’d while driving, pay attention to knocks in the steering mechanism. They can mean either the demise of tie rod ends for 800 rubles or the need to replace the entire unit with power steering for 16,300 rubles. The second is more often applicable to pre-restyling Seeds. But what exactly needs to be changed will only be determined by diagnostics, so it is better to ask the seller for the maximum discount on eliminating the disease.

Also, when inspecting the car, it is important to check the operation of the electrics, which in the “Korean” suffer from souring of contacts due to dampness. Make sure all buttons, controls, and levers do what they are supposed to do. It’s also worth turning on the air conditioning in the car to maximum. The absence of icy air from the ventilation deflectors can mean not only the upcoming refilling of the system with refrigerant from 1,500 rubles, but also an expensive replacement of pipes and a condenser, which are affected by corrosion over time.

How much?

Prices for first-generation Kia cee’d hatches and station wagons range from 250,000 to 650,000 rubles. In the first case, this is what they ask for for cars that were launched with junior petrol engines 1.4 and 1.6 with manual transmission and mileage from 170,000 km to 200,000 km. And in the second - for the latest restyled copies of 2011 in good trim levels and with an automatic transmission, which have traveled no more than 60,000 km. And in some cases, even half that. It’s unlikely that you’ll be able to find updated Seeds for less than 350,000 rubles. And such cars have already traveled at least 100,000 km.

Our choice

Although the “first” Kia cee’d does not claim to be the most beautiful and reliable car"Golf-class" with mileage, this model nevertheless may well be a good purchase for a family and leisurely car enthusiast. But only if you choose a well-maintained, serviceable car after the 2009 update and exclusively with the most powerful and not the most popular 2-liter engine. gasoline engine paired with a machine gun.

Such “Sids” at 6-7 years of age with a hatchback body and a mileage of up to 150,000 km can be found for 450,000 rubles, and station wagons with similar characteristics can be found for 500,000 rubles. However, we at Am.ru for the same money would prefer a much nicer and more reliable “Japanese” - the Mazda 3 of the previous generation. It will also be equipped with a 2-liter and even slightly more powerful engine, as well as a completely modern 5-speed automatic transmission. And, oddly enough, the mileage of such a Mazda will be less.